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Tropic Site Admin Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 302 Location: Florida	Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: An interesting thought about fan fic and content   Hey all! I recently was in game talking to PhoenixHawk and he asked if I had heard about issue 12. He was saying that this Night Squad/Guard what-have-you is a lot like a creation of his called the Nightcasters. We then talked a bit about the devs etc but it got me thinking... Do you think its plausable that the devs or powers that be peruse the CoH fan fic in general and think "Gee that would make a good arc" ? Lets face it all stories in their universe are 'technically' theirs. The setting, canon villains and heroes, city zones, powers etc are merely being borrowed by us. I wrote a comic script about Atlas Park being destroyed by a nuke ( I can't remember how to spell neuclear...nuclear...nu...you get the idea!) , posted it (Top Ten Comic...Look under Authors in Koelbl for it) and next thing here comes Siren's Call! Same premise! What's your opinion. Or am I being paranoid...again. Remember...Its not being paranoid if they're really out to get you! Tropic
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Myths n' Wraiths Freedom Phalanx Founding Member Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 832 Location: I give a crap too ;) .	Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject:   I am about 90% sure that the "Midnight Squad" has been in the CoH lore since VERY early on. I think I read a few things about them here and there while getting my history badges and all. But, do I think that they 'borrow' the best ideas from what they scrounge up on the net... Hell yeah, unimaginative MOFO's. I refuse to complain though, as long as they are taking ideas from people like you Trop, the game is in good hands . _________________ Murphey's Laws of Combat "A sucking chest wound is natures way of telling you to slow down."
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Ockham Freedom Phalanx Founding Member Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 877 Location: I give a crap!	Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:25 am    Post subject:   Yah there are some plaques and badges for midnight squad. Quote: Midnight Squad From ParagonWiki Overview A team of mystics, magicians, and scholars, the Midnight Squad originally banded together in 1933 to defend Paragon City from evil occultists like the Circle of Thorns. Unlike other hero organizations, the Midnight Squad typically operates in secrecy and shadow. History Unlike many of the other hero organizations that have blossomed and then faded in Paragon City's past, the Midnight Squad has endured in one form or another since the 1920's. This amazing record of success stems entirely from the fact that the Squad has never been a formal team of heroes like the Freedom Phalanx or Dawn Patrol. Instead it is more like a very exclusive private club, the only requirement for which is that you know a great deal about magic and the occult. Members come and go, but the club remains. The group originally started as a sort of reading and study group for paranormal investigators in the 1920's. Many of the original members had respectable jobs as professors, historians, museum curators, and scientists. They could not be seen publicly meeting and discussing controversial subjects like demons, magic, ghosts, and spirit worlds. So they met in secret, often late at night in the home of one of their many wealthy patrons and members. Their goal was to gather and digest as much information as they could about the occult, cutting through all of the superstition and lies to reveal the inner truths of the magical world (if indeed there were any). The group was catapulted into the ranks of hero organizations in 1933 when a mysterious sorcerer who called himself the Dream Doctor approached them. The good doctor was well aware of the secret meetings, although the group's members were not aware of him. A powerful magician in his own right, the Dream Doctor's magical powers came naturally to him. He was not well versed in the history and traditions of the occult. He had come into conflict with a group of evil sorcerers called the Circle of Thorns and he needed help. He paid a visit to one of the private club's midnight meetings and asked for their assistance. The academics in the group had never thought of themselves as heroes, but they were shocked and horrified at the Dream Doctor's descriptions of the foul Circle of Thorns. The group agreed to help, and many of them were actually quite excited at the prospect. One of the members came up with the name Midnight Squad, inspired by their late night meetings. A few of the members even went so far as to make costumes and wear masks. The group joined the Dream Doctor and helped defeat the Circle of Thorns, at least in part. Thus an ongoing war between the Midnight Squad and the Circle of Thorns began, and continued to be waged for decades to come. Over the years the Midnight Squad has gone through hundreds of members and many incarnations. For a time in the sixties and seventies its members wore tights and masks and fought like traditional super powered heroes, using magic instead of mutations. But ever since the 1980's the group has become less and less public. In the world of magic it is a very risky thing to let your enemies know too many details about you. Far better to operate in the shadows and keep your presence hidden from prying eyes. By the early nineties the group had largely faded from public life, although it still remained quite active in the war on evil. During the Rikti War, the Midnight Squad played a tremendously important role, but they also paid an awful price. The Rikti advanced technology was quite vulnerable to mystic assault, and the alien invaders soon realized this weakness. As they fought both the Circle of Thorns and the Midnight Squad they became determined to both learn more about magic and also neutralize its threat. The Midnight Squad became a prime target for Rikti assassins, and the group's main headquarters was destroyed in a fusion bomb blast. Many of its more heroic sorcerers were captured in battle and are still missing to this day, presumed dead. Today the Midnight Squad is but a shadow of its former self. There are few true heroes left in the organization. All that survives is the knowledge base the group has acquired over the decades. It's much more a research resource than an organization fit to fight. The few remaining members guard their collections of tomes and relics feverishly, fearful of letting their last bit of power slip through their fingers. They're more than willing to help other heroes take up the burden of direct conflict with evil powers, but they have no courage for battle themselves. A few of the members have taken to actually mentoring young heroes interested in using magic to fight evil, but even they do so with care, making sure they don't expose themselves to any of the many dangers they see lurking around every corner. In a way the group has come full circle, reverting back to its origins as a group for academics and occultists who pursue and process knowledge and then give it to others to do good with. Roster Tammy Arcanus, aka Numina Tommy Arcanus Ross Coldwell, aka Darkvine (deceased) John Knox, aka Crimson Fist Percy Winkley Researchers The following people have done research for the Midnight Squad. Buck Salinger Status: Contact in Croatoa Edgar Torvald Status: Murdered by the Circle of Thorns Hinckley Rasmussen Status: Contact in Talos Island Nathan Crane Status: Murdered by the Carnival of Shadows _________________ Need a break from COH Fan Fiction? Try www.AnthonyHarte.com A Sci-Fi Fantasy Source.
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Tog Hero Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 85 Location: Northern Utah	Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject:   Some things may be happy accidents, while others might be "idea cultivation". Back around I5 I posted several ideas for new sets that included Air control, Electricity control, Electric armor, Light armor (The see in the dark kind, no light weight), Light blasting, and Thrown Weapons. When I7 dropped, there was the Electric Armor set. Many of the powers matched my description in function, but not quite enough for me to claim the idea was mine. I still want my Air Control though. Dammit. _________________ Guide for new players is now (mostly) updated for Issue 12. Link is the website in my profile.
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Ockham Freedom Phalanx Founding Member Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 877 Location: I give a crap!	Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 11:44 am    Post subject:   Toot, toot! To read about what may very well be the origins of the Nightcasters see Not the Hero PH was nice enough to allow me the tie in. Actually I think the Nightcasters would be just as interesting if delved into fully. To quote PH: Quote: Quote: That had all been almost fifty-years ago. Dr. Ward had died quietly in his sleep several years ago. Most of the people he had known were gone now. Aaron, known as PhoenixHawk to most, had died at the hands of a super-demon summoned by the Circle of Thorns. That group had long since dissipated, but of their remnants, the strongest had survived, and become the NightCasters. I've had something in my head for this for quite some time. Maybe all of our stories will come together and make sense. We'll have to watch and see. D It is a very grey area for who owns what with fan fiction. The only best solution is a lawsuit that will undoubtably be taken to the Supreme Court. But who has the money for that. With all the settlements out of court that happen the issue never gets resolved. Including Marvel vs. City of Heroes. That could have bennchmarked a lot but that was stteled and not ruled upon. A common outcome. Any one got millions of dollars to make a go of it? I know any characters we create in-game are in name and likeness are property of NCSoft. Fan stories fall into a different area, though related. I guarantee if Marvel Online where to actaully have been made they would lay claim to every character we would make on their server. I know of an incident when Marvel was offering "custom" figures. This was over 20 years ago. He sent his character name in and whatever was required and they sent him an action figure with the name attached. I think it was a year later when a that hero actaully appeared in a comic. Hmm... _________________ Need a break from COH Fan Fiction? Try www.AnthonyHarte.com A Sci-Fi Fantasy Source.
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fixit God-like Powers Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 605 Location: Utah	Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 6:06 pm    Post subject:   I know for a fact that they don't look online for your ideas. They come into your bedroom while you're sleeping. and they wake you up. And then they're all "hey, we need to talk" and I was like, "well dammit, now I gotta pee, hold on" and they were like "we don't care, we want ideas for cool stuff to put in the game." I was all like "a butt scratch emote would be cool" and then they left me alone. _________________ Consider it fixed!
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Ockham Freedom Phalanx Founding Member Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 877 Location: I give a crap!	Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject:   Aw crap, Fixit is back. Where's my keyboard now I HAVE to finish that stupid story. _________________ Need a break from COH Fan Fiction? Try www.AnthonyHarte.com A Sci-Fi Fantasy Source.
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Myths n' Wraiths Freedom Phalanx Founding Member Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 832 Location: I give a crap too ;) .	Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject:   I want leather underwear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _________________ Murphey's Laws of Combat "A sucking chest wound is natures way of telling you to slow down."
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fixit God-like Powers Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 605 Location: Utah	Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:52 pm    Post subject:   You get the cowhide diapers when I get my X-ray specs. Stupid ockham points... _________________ Consider it fixed!
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Big Puerto Rico Class 100 Hero Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 161 Location: Cali	Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:26 am    Post subject:   fixit wrote: You get the cowhide diapers when I get my X-ray specs. Stupid ockham points... hahahaha but on the topic at hand, it is a sad fact that if you have a good idea and you put it out there it could be taken. my professor worked on a mod for battlefield 1942 where you where able to get into certain vehicles and such and he and his team needed the permission to do that from the developers themselves they got the go ahead and then a patch came through for the game which made what happen? that's right you can get into those vehicles that my prof and did a mod for, of course it came out before he and his team could do anything. but hey that's how it goes in the wild wild west, and to think i'm getting into this business...which is why i've been so busy, doing my schooling and all. but don't worry when i get into it best believe YOU GUYS WILL GET BETA INVITES, haha now aren't you glad you put up with me here? by the way sorry for the long post. _________________ Till next time Big PR. "I believe the key to happiness is: some one to love, something to do, and something to look forward to." I roam in many places but mostly on the Triumph server.
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Myths n' Wraiths Freedom Phalanx Founding Member Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 832 Location: I give a crap too ;) .	Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject:   BETA INVITES No worries about the long post, BPR. You are offcialy allowed to talk all you want _________________ Murphey's Laws of Combat "A sucking chest wound is natures way of telling you to slow down."
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Ockham Freedom Phalanx Founding Member Joined: 25 Apr 2006 Posts: 877 Location: I give a crap!	Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject:   Beta Invites? Who I wanna, I wanna, I wanna... What are we talking about? <wink wink> <nudge nudge> <know what I mean> <say no more?> Pfft! That's a long post! Don't even get me started. Write all the long posts you want. _________________ Need a break from COH Fan Fiction? Try www.AnthonyHarte.com A Sci-Fi Fantasy Source.
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Big Puerto Rico Class 100 Hero Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 161 Location: Cali	Posted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 2:31 pm    Post subject:   lol ok mi amigos and to let you know when i graduate, which may be around 1 & 1/2 years to 2 years i plan on trying to work for an MMO company, then you know pull some strings, then you know get certain people to you know... heres to having a good future filled with quality works and quality tester, such as the members of coh writer's guild. _________________ Till next time Big PR. "I believe the key to happiness is: some one to love, something to do, and something to look forward to." I roam in many places but mostly on the Triumph server.
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